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The mods will remove offensive posts, spam, and posts encouraging fraud, but anything else it is your job as a community participant to report any issues to the mods. What, you mean torrents? Yeah, I know they're a no-no here, but I torrent tons of stuff that either A) Isn't available for streaming or B) Isn't available for direct purchase. I know that is taboo here on but the bottom line is this: I try to find my shows via online streaming (either on one of the sites that I pay for, if not available via a networks streaming site as in this case), if it's a show that I really care about I buy a season pass for it. If it's not available for me to purchase then I torrent it. 99.9% of the time the shows I want are available on one site or another (that supports the people that make them), but if they're too old fashioned to offer their stuff on line in any form then of course I'm going to torrent it. Anyone on this sub who says they don't do the same thing is lying IMO.
The bottom line is this: I do everything I can to appease the powers that be (including paying lots of money for streaming services and one-off purchases), but I refuse to pay for stuff I don't want just so I can get the things I do want (ie. Bundled cable/satellite packages). I'm not promoting 'illegal' content (which is in and of itself a grey area - it's not actually illegal for me to download stuff here, just for me to upload it) - I WANT to pay for the things I like. I just don't want to subsidise the 'Men's 18-24 Blindfolded Basketball Network' or the 'Jelly Makers Emporium Network' just so I can watch the 5-6 network shows I actually care about that aren't available for purchase via the internet. Oh I certainly agree! And yes, I primarily meant Usenet, but also torrents, proxy access etc. Even aside from restrictions, overpriced plans, and having to subscribe to loads of channels you don't want, it blows my mind that people are willingly paying $150/month for a subscription service that still forces you to watch commercials for 1/3 of every hour of programming!
Could you imagine the uproar if during a movie at a movie theater they started airing commercials every 10 minutes?! It's insanity. So much money for such a horrid service. Usenet is something I've been thinking about getting into, but the trackers I use work for me so meh. One thing: Could you imagine the uproar if during a movie at a movie theater they started airing commercials every 10 minutes?! Maybe you haven't been to a movie lately (erm, in the last 2-4 years) but before every movie now there are 15 minutes of trailers mixed in with 10 minutes worth of commercials. Sure, it's not an interruption during the movie, but it's definitely 1/2 of my popcorn eating time and still really annoying to have to sit through after paying $12.50 for a ticket.
We have Cineplex here and it's really bad - like seriously 4-5 LONG commercials before the movie (not for early comers either - if the movie start time is 9PM the commercials start at 9PM). It's super annoying, but hey, I like big screens.
Man - it has been a while since I've been to a movie. Not super long, but all I recall ever seeing was the early arrival commercials. The other thing with modern movies is massive product placement/corporate sponsorship.
That sort of thing I don't really care about, so long as it doesn't distract from the content of the movie. Hell, go back and watch Back to the Future now. It's one long commercial - but I still love it! Interestingly I remember interviewing the CEO of a company called aQuantive ten years ago. The company has since been purchased by Microsoft. Even back then though, one of their primary lines of business was figuring out sponsorship placement for on demand services.
So people have been at this advertising problem for online streaming for quite a while already. Some interesting food for thought I was pondering while thinking about this situation: Cable companies must be realizing they are dying dinosaurs along the same lines as music labels. Traditionally, cable and music labels' power was in their access to distribution. The internet completely leveled the distribution game.
I would imagine the cable/channel agreement is as follows: - Channels are owned in large blocks by companies like Viacom - Viacom negotiates with cable provider for distribution rights for $X millions of dollars - Contract is signed. Cable provider gets its money from subscriptions and commercials. If you notice, when the service links directly to the channel, taking out the cable middle man, there are no commercials. ESPN streaming is an example. But you of course have to have a cable subscription in order to use ESPN streaming So why don't the channel owners ditch the cable providers if distribution no longer matters?
One has to assume that the cost to build the server infrastructure to stream all channels and the loss of guaranteed cable contracts is greater than the revenue potential from the ability to air their own commercials and generate individual subscriptions. Also, if channels could be subscribed to individually, a ton of those revenue generating crap channels would just die.
The heart of the problem here is that the channels are owned in large blocks. If ESPN was independent, it might make a lot of sense and would probably be lucrative to go on their own net distribution. With the current landscape, the only way I can see things changing is for someone with VERY deep pockets to do something game changing. As in for a group of billionaire investors to negotiate the NFL, MLB, and college sports out of their exclusive contracts and start an online only live streaming subscription sports channel that is independent of other channels. Anyone on this sub who says they don't do the same thing is lying IMO This is what people will say to make themselves feel OK with stealing content. I don't torrent anything and I'm sure that most here don't also. Get a DVR and OTA antenna and you don't need to torrent 20/20 or anything on the 6 major networks.
Furthermore most current content is also available legally via Itunes, Amazon, Vudu and a host of others. If you get a summons for copyright infringement you will end up spending far far more than you would have ever spent by just using legal means. We use a friend's log in for all tv watching stuff. They created a sub account for us on their cable log in. This is so we can't see what they subscribe to or see their bill. I know Comcast, FIOS, and TWC all have the ability to make a sub account for tv watching. It's made for families so that the parents can put parental restrictions for their kids.
Each one has their own conditions for watching content on the web (some you have to go to the cable company's site to watch it) but you get the content for free. We just buy our friend a 12 pack of beer once in a while for letting us use his sub account. He hasn't gotten in trouble and neither have we. OH an added bonus is HBO GO can be accessed this way too.